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Mrthc_420
519 days ago in
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opinions on shatter vs wax?

Whenever i blast, i always make a nice shatter and everytime i make the shatter its amazingly smooth and tasty;then it clouds up after a week or two and turns to a wax. in my opinion it has a little less taste and isnt as smooth when it clouds up and turns into a wax then when it was originally shatter. Ive read that wax/lipids(which is whats in wax/honeycomb)will clog your alveoli(small air ways threwout lungs)after a long period of time. Any thoughts?

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  • Smokey710
    519 days ago

    I can’t say one or the other is better its all option i enjoy both :) but I can say if wax/honeycomb was as bad as your saying people wouldn’t smoke waxes / honeycomb at all yet alone try and achieve those consistencies for patients with all types of illness

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  • Smokey710
    519 days ago

    Opinion*

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  • MACVISHION
    519 days ago

    From what I’ve experienced if its made and purged correctly shatter stays shatter til you are done dabbing it
    But I’ve had Every consistency there is and only time I Dont like it it when its flakey like fish food or so wet buddery u can see was too much residue left behind on parch

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  • Herowalker
    519 days ago

    I dont get how honeycomb that is made in a vac purge is bad for you like some people say.

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    • TheBigDabowski
      519 days ago

      Residual wax coats our lungs. When in shatter form there is not residual wax.

    • Mcdabbers503
      519 days ago

      The big daboski is WRONG their is nothing in honeycomb that their isn’t in shatter possibly even less butane in honeycomb

      But people are beging to argue the actual structure of wax is different on a molecular level and the structure wax takes form in is less accepted by are lungs

      It has something to do with the cannabis plants waxes their very close to the wax that coats wasps making them water proof
      Their trying to argue sence the waxy structure is “less exeptable by are lungs” these cannabis plant waxes are acually able to remain on the walls of our lungs water proofing them inedibly leading to a collapsed lung

      I’m don’t believe this tho because I have found Zero evidence that they have even tested the two types of structures and how their absorbed into are lungs.

      If anyone can find data on this I’d be glad to reconsider

    • Mcdabbers503
      519 days ago

      Thebigdaboski you can just say that it makes it sound like your saying their is no waxes in shatter.

      honeycomb is shatter that’s been vacuum on low heat for a long ass time, how can u say honeycomb contains things shatter dosnt…
      Shatter came first honeycomb came after, that means honeybomb can only loose things like moisture, remaining butane, ect…

    • Oilhead420
      518 days ago

      mcdabbers,if everyone purged their wax low heat for an extended time to make wax we might not be having this discussion. Too many people are agitating and whipping the product into wax before it has been purged of butane. When it waxes up before it has even been a shatter/hammond, thats the problem, and too many people are doing it. When that happens, yeah there is excess moisture, butane, waxes, ect that gives wax a bad name. I would also like to state that i don’t fuck with wax because of these facts. I would have to say there is plant wax in shatter as there is in wax, i’m not sure if in the wax form it hurts us more, but if it does it would explain the more intense irritation I usually get when I dab wax.

    • Mcdabbers503
      518 days ago

      They claim wax is less absorbed by your lungs. But I find honeycomb way smoother than shatter

    • Mrthc_420
      518 days ago

      no, witha shatter theres a lot less lipids/waxes than a normal wax/honeycomb would; therefore leading to more lipids coating your lungs faster. there isnt anything that will change that. im not hating on honeycomb at all, it just seems like it has worse more long-term effects than shatter. But idk we’ll earn when they do serious testing. lmao

    • Mrthc_420
      518 days ago

      learn

    • Mcdabbers503
      518 days ago

      HOW THE FUCK DO U ADD WAXES BY HEATING AND VACUUMING
      YOU MAKE SHATTER KEEP ON LOW HEAT AND KEEP VACCING
      THAT’S HOW U MAKE HONEYCOMB OH I FORGOT THE POINT WHERE I ADD A BUNCH OF PLANT WAXES

      GOD UR STUPID

    • Mrthc_420
      518 days ago

      IM NOT SAYING YOU ADD LIPIDS/WAXES U MORON LOOOOOOOOOOL


  • Mcdabbers503
    519 days ago

    people are beging to argue the actual structure of wax is different on a molecular level and the structure wax takes form in is less accepted by are lungs
    It has something to do with the cannabis plants waxes their very close to the wax that coats wasps making them water proof
    Their trying to argue sence the waxy structure is “less exeptable by are lungs” these cannabis plant waxes are acually able to remain on the walls of our lungs water proofing them inedibly leading to a collapsed lung
    I’m don’t believe this tho because I have found Zero evidence that they have even tested the two types of structures and how their absorbed into are lungs.
    If anyone can find data on this I’d be glad to reconsider

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    • MACVISHION
      519 days ago

      I’m sure magweedo was dabbing top notch wax and he still got collapsed lung
      Dab tough u have more to be concerned about it

    • Mcdabbers503
      519 days ago

      I took a 2 week vacation/sober break and I’m back steady with flowers

    • MACVISHION
      518 days ago

      2 weeks vacation from dabs and flowers and now u just smoking flowers that what u mean mvdabber503

    • Mcdabbers503
      518 days ago

      I took a vacation to florida and smoked nothing, Now flowers are strong enough so I don’t feel the need to make and smoke oil at the moment. It would just fuck up my tolerance

    • redlaser
      517 days ago

      Well too much bho might not be good for the lungs but Info is lacking on long term users. As far as the honeycomb/shatter debate, it seems to me it all starts out liquid and ends up vaporized so the structure of the concentrate doesn’t seem to matter.


  • Mcdabbers503
    518 days ago

    MrThc your a fucking retard if you think honeycomb has more waxes then shatter

    Your a dumb fucking shatter head
    At no point do u add waxes to make honeycomb. Whatever is in honeycomb is what’s in shatter you need to fuckin learn

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    • Mrthc_420
      518 days ago

      lmfao your literally half autistic kid, the waxes and lipids literaly multiply due to the process moron. Let me put it in a more simple manner for morons like you; Shatters have lets say 10 lipid molecules within a 1 gram slab of shatter, honeycombs will have 30 lipid molecules within a gram. Not sayings thats how much is in it but thats how it works. The lipid molecules MULITPLY(you cant change science because you like honeycomb more hahahahah) as you change certain variables such as heat.
      Lol hope that got threw your skull. andno im not a ‘shatter head” as i said befotre i love honeycombs. Your are literllay retarted lmfao.

    • Mrthc_420
      518 days ago

      i never said “you add waxes to honeycomb” lmfao they mulitply; i dont have to add shit. you needa learn. common science.

    • Chef
      518 days ago

      The waxes multiply?? Dear god, you must be kidding, right?! Please say you are. Please?
      Lets just say that waxes and lipids are produced by the plant using a complex process involving precursor enzymes and proteins. They’re not going to magically increase in number due to reduced air pressure and heat…
      (Shakes head…)


  • silent
    518 days ago

    This is ridiculous. You think by vacuum purging a little bit longer WAXES dissolve? Get real. It’s all the same shit once it hits the nail, it turns to oil then vaporizes. Does the reclaim from shatter look different than reclaim from wax? NO

    Too much following, not enough education. Stop just believing what you read and ask questions.

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  • Lukaroast
    516 days ago

    Typically, wax is a little bit more flavorful, and aa little bit more smelly. Wax has more plant matter in it (waxes, lipids,etc) and those usually cause the wax to be more harsh than shatter.
    Shatter uses another process to remove even more plant matter virtually eliminating the lipids, fats and waxes in the material, obviously all of this can differ based on quality of product, but generally that is the result. It has less plant in it, which gives it typically less taste and certainly less smell.with the plant matter gone the shatter is cleaner and smokes that way. That being said, there is some tasty shatters and some smooth waxes.
    As far as clogging your lungs, i think you would have to smoke a ludicrous amount in order to build up residue faster than your body can eject it by means of cellular regeneration in your lungs.
    Sometimes a slower purge will keep your concentrate stable.

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